May 9th, 2007 - Early afternoon. I meet the adjuster (Kym) and her builder on location and begin the property walk through. The place is a mess. Burnt and damaged vinyl everywhere, the place smells like 100 cigarette smokers and the floors are covered with gypsum and wool insulation. Next door, CFD is pumping more water into the burned out hole in the ground that was supposed to be Condos.
We start with a discussion of the board-up that is still ongoing. The ground floors are boarded where there are no windows. The windows on the fire side are completely melted and in some spots the walls are burned through. The larger damage has been covered with blue tarps. The ceilings on the second floor are gone and you can see the fire damage to the roofing timbers. At this point there's not much to look at and the smoke smell is getting to me, so I leave the adjuster to her work and go outside.
Looking around outside tells a story itself. The fire was so hot, it melted vinyl across the street and even across the street and one door down. A house across the alley had a wooden fence and storage shed. They both ignited and were badly burned. I walk around the property and run into several of the neighbors. One is a retired lady who lives across the street in the former Methodist church parsonage with her husband. She is watering flowers wilted by the heat. Her house has damaged vinyl siding and the windows on her front porch are damaged and won't open. I ask if she's called her insurance company and she says she has. I mention I would have gotten a repair estimate first then called my insurance company, but then again, I carry higher deductibles than most.
In the insurance biz, Property & Casualty companies keep track of claims filed through a service called CLUE (Comprehensive Loss Underwriting Exchange). Based on their CLUE contract, insurance companies are required to report claims to CLUE even if no action was taken or money paid out. Since fire claims get a lot of attention from property underwriters, filing a small claim is probably a bad idea. Too late. Anyhow between replacing two double windows ($800) and matching vinyl siding, we're probably looking at $1500 or so for the claim. Probably more than most people want to pay out of pocket. I also talk to the guy who's fence was burned. Outside his fence, there is a melted trash container. One of the large rolling units provided by the City of Columbus. I suggest he borrow one from the back of my property since it's still intact. He too has been in contact with his insurance company. I hate repeating myself so I don't.
He does provide another clue to what happened in the house that caught fire; apparently it was the owner inside running a circular saw that started the fire. He says the inside had not been drywalled yet so when the fire started it went up like a torch. I didn't realize insulation was so flammable. Guess I'll have to research that. So much for a contractor with insurance to subrogate the claim.
Returning to the front porch I notice something. The outside of the wall that faced this intense heat is fairly intact. On closer inspection I discover an old Columbus trick: the vinyl siding had been installed on top of asbestos shingles. See in some cities, building code are rigidly enforced, asbestos is abated (properly removed and disposed of) and things like this would never happen. In Columbus, unless you're building a nuclear power plant, the city is pretty unaware of building and code violations. Well, regardless of what your position on asbestos is, without those shingles my house would have been a smoking hole in the ground. I do point out the shingles to Kym, she makes a note and will determine if there is a code-enforcement endorsement in my policy (I know there is). I leave to return to work and she continues on inventorying the house and measuring rooms.
Later that afternoon I fax copies of the leases to Kym and wait to hear back. Since I don't hear from her again until the following Monday, my next post will detail homeowner coverage and how it applied to my dwelling fire policy.
Ernesto
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Wednesday, May 16, 2007
Tuesday, May 15, 2007
Here come the adjusters
May 8th, 2007 - My insurance company (rhymes with Sentry) has been called and around 10:30AM local the adjuster calls from beautiful Stevens Point WI. He asks some general questions - what happened, when, how bad, anyone hurt, did you have tenants yada yada. I offer to email him a picture and when he receives it he agrees the damage is bad.
Back up a step, the main reason all of my policies are through Sentry; (1) their rates are decent and (2) I used to be a Sentry sales rep. Overall my impression of the company was good although, with my ultra-preferred book of business, I never really had many large claims. When your clientele is 40+ and well heeled but not rich, your claims are going to be infrequent. This would have been the largest claim on my book ever.
Back to the house, since Sentry only has one adjuster in the state of Ohio (I told you, not many claims) they assign a independent claims adjuster. I'm told they will be in contact with me the same day. Sure enough several hours later the independent adjuster calls. She gets contact data and sets up an appointment the next day to walk through the house. I ask if she know a company to board up and secure the property and of course she does. She says that she'll contact them and get them on the care right away.
Securing damaged property is part of coverage provided and finding companies that do it is not terribly hard, in fact many of these companies will visit fire scenes with business cards in hand and offer to do the job on the spot. The trick is finding someone reasonable (at least reasonable so the insurance company will pay for it) and reliable. A honest adjuster should know both. Also since she took care of it, they'll bill the insurance company directly. No small issue since I'm out May rent, security deposits and the mortgage company still wants to get paid. She also asks about current leases, since loss of rent is part of my coverage. I'll pull the latest leases I have and get her a copy.
So a time is set up to visit the property. The adjuster will bring a contractor with her to access the damage and determine costs. In the meantime, I start a search for my own contractor. Since I've gotten out of the sales rep game ( a story for another day) I don't have many current contacts in the industry anymore. Most handymen I know in the industry are too small to handle such a large task, so the search begins.
More tomorrow ..
Ernesto
Back up a step, the main reason all of my policies are through Sentry; (1) their rates are decent and (2) I used to be a Sentry sales rep. Overall my impression of the company was good although, with my ultra-preferred book of business, I never really had many large claims. When your clientele is 40+ and well heeled but not rich, your claims are going to be infrequent. This would have been the largest claim on my book ever.
Back to the house, since Sentry only has one adjuster in the state of Ohio (I told you, not many claims) they assign a independent claims adjuster. I'm told they will be in contact with me the same day. Sure enough several hours later the independent adjuster calls. She gets contact data and sets up an appointment the next day to walk through the house. I ask if she know a company to board up and secure the property and of course she does. She says that she'll contact them and get them on the care right away.
Securing damaged property is part of coverage provided and finding companies that do it is not terribly hard, in fact many of these companies will visit fire scenes with business cards in hand and offer to do the job on the spot. The trick is finding someone reasonable (at least reasonable so the insurance company will pay for it) and reliable. A honest adjuster should know both. Also since she took care of it, they'll bill the insurance company directly. No small issue since I'm out May rent, security deposits and the mortgage company still wants to get paid. She also asks about current leases, since loss of rent is part of my coverage. I'll pull the latest leases I have and get her a copy.
So a time is set up to visit the property. The adjuster will bring a contractor with her to access the damage and determine costs. In the meantime, I start a search for my own contractor. Since I've gotten out of the sales rep game ( a story for another day) I don't have many current contacts in the industry anymore. Most handymen I know in the industry are too small to handle such a large task, so the search begins.
More tomorrow ..
Ernesto
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